Also great thread. It was the same for me, even if I found a great call in service I was always told I was to stupid to keep it and another JW would just take itaway from me. I had zero confidence in myself.
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Have you noticed the common practice is to knock indivual's self esteem?
by stuckinarut2 inin another thread, one of our members made a comment that caught my attention.. i have been trying to put my finger on a practice amongst the org and witnesses in general.... as soon as someone does something well, accomplishes something, or excels at something, the atmosphere effectiveley 'kicks them in the gut' to bring them down.. anything that makes a person grow or develop is blatently discouraged and therefore self esteem is squashed!.
the constant message telling a witness to be 'humble' is designed to suck any sense of growth or 'betterment' out of a person..... therefore this leaves the average witness to be a blubbering mess of insecurity and instability completely dependant on the organization...kind of like a 'battered-wife' scenario.... .
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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"
by breakfast of champions inmy wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
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Thank you Landy
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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"
by breakfast of champions inmy wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
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Yep Landy I am and I am never going to stop anymore than you are, because your going accrose the same threads I am, and you might want to learn to be able to count because it's 3 threads not 20.
Makes me wonder how true your facts and views are being you just embellished this number?
RO now you can rest in peace, it's clearly a stupid law firm that doesn't mean anything, they are just doing a silly what did Landy call it oh I know a "fishing expedition to see if it might throw up anything."
So since this is clearly a stupid law firm who's just chasing money and that it's such a huge long shot, only a uphill battle, now that you have called and realized that this law firm means nothing as as Landy so eloquently says it's a huge long shot. Stop debating us we didn't place the ad's.
And no Landy I am not going to stop posting on these 3 threads anymore than you and all the other poster's who have posted on ALL THREE of them. The last I knew you didn't own this web sight and I have not broken the rules by posting on 3 threads. I see a lot of people posting on more than one, and so your point in getting ticked off at me really seems silly, especially since you are doing the same thing.
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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"
by breakfast of champions inmy wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
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I was just go to say it's Monday the law firm is open for sure, throes who are so sure that this is a waste of time, that it's a uphill battle, that have proof to back up what and why they are saying, instead of debating us over and over and over who can do nothing about it as we didn't place the ad's, Thoes like RO and Landy, now's the time to call, talk to someone who can help you instead of wasting your time with us and getting frustrated because we happen to disagree with you.
And even if your right at least the ad's are making a huge statement in of themselves. Just the fact that the next time a JW calls on someone's door they are going to remember these ad's. Just this publicity is a huge victory in itself.
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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I am sorry but I respectfully have to disagree with you in that Richard as been correct., he has some points that might taken at face value to be true, but he throws to many scare tactics in.
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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Landry seriously, you really believe I am serious.
You really think I am an idiot. OK I get that you do not understand what I am doing. Maybe you and Richard can get together and chat, over a cup of tea.
I did call the law firm and told them what is happening in my hall. I did not tell them or read them Richard's post's.
I am being sarcastic to get Richard to stop trying to scare people into believing that this is not going to work.
It's frustrating as I ama victim of abuse to to be a new person reading what what Richard say's could scare someone back to the KH, back to their abouser'.
I am just frustrated that he ueses such insane reasoning.
I guess I just never thought anyone would really take me seriously like you did.
I am just really upset at his scare tactics, as the abuse of children hits home too close to me. Sorry if I went overboard.
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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No it's not an operator who picked up a phone it was the law firm.
Yes it's clear you do not have anything else to do, we all understand that very much, your posts show that.
If you trully feel my calling them meant nothing and that I just talked to a mindless person in a cubicle, then why are you so worked up over this.
If the law firm is having people answer the phone who who can do nothing, but just make people who call them like me feel good they why are you so worked up again? Why all of your posts about how this is wrong, the paint by #'s,, slam dunk their hurting victioms.
Look we really and truly did not place the ad's, you need to calm down take a deep breath, maybe go outside get some fresh air. Maybe even find something that doesn't work you up so much to do and then call the law firm.
If you feel the guy you are talking to is a mindless idiot sitting in a cubicle you you can ask to speak to someone over him, and then someone over him.. Also you can go to their web sight and email them. And if you will not do that why are you so worked up over this, if you truly feel that when you call you can't talk to anyone that matters, than this is not a true law firm that you need to worry about.
Now take derp breaths, stop being so worked up, and clam down and call them.
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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Richard I didn't put any words into your mouth I read them your posts the word's you wrote.
Yes I told them that you felt one poster said it's a slam dunk, and I also told them what that poster really said. Also the paint by #'s thing I told them all. I read them your posts so I wouldnot be trusting your word's.
Now quit getting yourself so worked up and call them.
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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Yes Richard I did, I hold then everything, I read them your posts. They said they know what they are doing but they are worried about you and your how upset you are sounding.
You sound so worked up. They want you to call so they can put your mind to ease.
Just call them instead of debating us,it's not doing you any ggod.
Again we didn't place the ad's they did. We were merely saying what we hope might happen and you came on trying to scare people into believing this is a lost cause, an uphill battle, it will take years if it ever work's. You are afraid for the victims that they are going to use cases that the victims are fragile, just so they can win big cases. That post of yours they really want to talk to you about.
They do not want to hurt anyone especially the victims and for you to indicate that they would they really want you to call so they can asure you that is not their intention.
Just call!
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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"
by breakfast of champions inmy wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
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Richard they are there now you can call them instead of getting so worked up posting here.
Calm down take a deep breath and call them, stop getting so worked up with us on this board, we didn't place the ad's they did call them.
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